Legend: Legacy of the Dragons Forum

Quoted from "-Cahal-"

No, Dzaack, the number of people who wants it to stay is not higher.
No, people don't vote stay "just in case".
Neutral areas are accesible for both races, they don't belong to anyone, therefore it makes sense to keep them out of this rule.
Regarding clans with "top tier" players and the other ones with low level players, what's the correlation? Before this rule, did stronger clans not stomp on the smaller ones? They did.
The equality I'm talking about is regarding how players are treated by the administration & the helping structures. Not how the players adapt to it. There is a difference.

Quoted from "Dzaack"

Quoted from "-Cahal-"

No, Dzaack, the number of people who wants it to stay is not higher.
No, people don't vote stay "just in case".
Neutral areas are accesible for both races, they don't belong to anyone, therefore it makes sense to keep them out of this rule.
Regarding clans with "top tier" players and the other ones with low level players, what's the correlation? Before this rule, did stronger clans not stomp on the smaller ones? They did.
The equality I'm talking about is regarding how players are treated by the administration & the helping structures. Not how the players adapt to it. There is a difference.

what does neutral ground has to do with anything here? a human cannot attack a player 3 lvls below on magmar continet and that's enemy land, vice versa for mags who cannot attack humans over here...
stronger player have went and rampage other players and sometimes clans but the comunity has a say to acts like these, for example, if someone is crazy how about stop showing any kind of support to that player? how about marginalizing him? it's been done before and plenty of those people already left the game...

...regarding that equality u're talking about it'll never happen so stop dreaming about it.

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Clan/Alliance members can no longer assist their mates in attacking ANY players of ANY level, but must also comply with the rule of "not attacking players that are 3 or more levels lower", even when helping their clan mates.

Quoted from "Gavrebel"

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Clan/Alliance members can no longer assist their mates in attacking ANY players of ANY level, but must also comply with the rule of "not attacking players that are 3 or more levels lower", even when helping their clan mates.

Isn't it important to make sure you yourself can quote the rules thoroughly before contradicting someone elses knowledge though but since everyone is quite capable of making mistakes, who cares.

Quoted from "Nurky"

Quoted from "Gavrebel"

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Clan/Alliance members can no longer assist their mates in attacking ANY players of ANY level, but must also comply with the rule of "not attacking players that are 3 or more levels lower", even when helping their clan mates.

Isn't it important to make sure you yourself can quote the rules thoroughly before contradicting someone elses knowledge though but since everyone is quite capable of making mistakes, who cares.

To you, because you answered me, who will be lvl 11 who came to kill a lvl 8 ....

Quoted from "OriginalSith"

Quoted from "Acro"

how interesting) if majority did not agree with this rule, how and on what reasons it was placed from the beginning ?))

@Sith think we should thank you for that rule)

You need your nose surgically removed from someone's ass. The fumes are effecting your brain as well as your memory.

This was instated because of MAGMARS, not humans (and not me). I know mag head guard is infatuated with me, thinks i'm the be all, end all of everything she can come up with BUT there was a huge war between alpha (usual fools) and RW and even some guards left (and welcomed back afterwards) to join and fight in that war. It got outta hand, you know, you joined in too

As for raiding, It was magmars (mostly alpha) that raided human lands and attacked everything in sight no matter the levels. Nestro, Store, Acro, Ark, I am Groot etc (not enough space to name everyone here), alot of lvl16 to 19 doing it. On DE they called it the Nestro rule (same attitude he had here and was quickly brought up once he was here doing his favorite thing of killing everything of all levels in his path. Me, i'm just a little lvl12-13 at the time, yet i'm to be made out as the scape goat with propoganda.

Careful where you throw stones Acro, glass falls everywhere once broken and it doesnt discriminate where it lands. I provided a possible solution, you provided... well, manure.

Quoted from "-Marjt-"

to dahna:

From now on, there is an outright BAN on attacks against any player both YOUR and OPPOSITE race, whose level is below your level by more than 3

Clan/Alliance members can no longer assist their mates in attacking ANY players of ANY level, but must also comply with the rule of "not attacking players that are 3 or more levels lower", even when helping their clan mates.


Now tell me where the zealous guard (me, and thanks for the compliment) made a rule himself? tell me where's the pain into understanding the rule?

Quoted from "-Marjt-"

What's the matter, it's one of your friends in this case?

Quoted from "Nurky"

Quoted from "Dahna"

Quoted from "Deranged_"

Problems of the current rule: It is overly complicated and leaves too much room for interpretation.

That's a real issue ...
The storie of yesterday is exactely that, a zealous guard decided that now, the rules apply not only when people attack, but also for helping, and decided alone, that now, we can no more help a guy attacked ...

What's a game, where you have one of your clanie with red tool, attacked by a guy of your race, but because of lvl you can't help him and have to let him die? You can even not attack the attacker back?

Is that what you want for the game? Want you really make people leave such a game ? a game where when you help someone you can be jailed depending of the guard will?


They want protect "low lvl" (even if the rule apply to all) for being "massacred" ... but jail people who help them?
Are you fall on the head?

It does not depend on the
will of a guard, you are wrong, if this post is because a mentor has
gone to jail for entering a combat in which he should not enter because
of the difference in level, and being a mentor he had to know. And that rule we all have very clear. The rules are for everyone and the guards are obliged to punish when the rules are not met.

Quoted from "--silent wolf--"

I think this rule is absolutly necessary and not all players play for same purpose. if somone is just mining stones and talking to other people for past 6 years it doesnt mean they can't because you call it a war game. I think no player should be allowed to decide who play game and who don't. this game is for everyone to enjoy it any way they want. can be hunting, pvp, mining, or just staying in cs and talk to others.

a respond to people who say this is a war game:
I agree, and there are specified pvps, and 2 races that are considered enemies. unfortunately I need to remind you before this rule (idk about magmar's situation but on human land) we had more fights between humans than human vs magmars since server merge (yes, for a long time). thousands of gold wasted, dozens or even hundreds of players left game, and now same people who make those weakers leave game complain that the game is "dead".


Having said that, I have heard about certain exceptional players abusing this rule and think just because this rule protects them they can do whatever they want, Absolutely Not!!!! I think this rules are a little overdoing it, right direction but wrong destination. I still stand by my vote that they should stay just need to reduce the restriction just a little bit simply by adding some detail to the conditions. it might take time, but slowly upgrading it is way better than completely removing or completly keeping it.

I would suggest not thinking about it as in Black or White, there are other colours inbetween. if 1st choice didnt work, go for next, then next, then next, I'm sure it will slowly get better if we try.

Thank you for your time,
--Silent Wolf--